State of Georgia

Department of Human Resources * Division of Public Health

 

OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES

 

EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES ADVISORY COUNCIL

QUARTERLY MEETING

 

TUESDAY, AUGUST 13, 2002

JEKYLL INN CONFERENCE CENTER - JEKYLL ISLAND, GEORGIA

 

The regular quarterly meeting of the Emergency Medical Services Advisory Council was called to order in the Rockefeller Room of the Jekyll Inn Conference Center at Jekyll Island at 0915 hours by Chair Stanley Payne.  Mr. Payne welcomed the members to the meeting.

 

 

MEMBERS PRESENT

 

MEMBERS ABSENT

 

Pat Atkins

Ernie Doss

Danny Edwards

Tim Genest

Ben Hinson

Chief Jack Krakeel

Allen McCullough

Lee Mitchell

Suzanne K. Nieman

Lee Oliver

Stanley Payne

Tom Schneider

Courtney Terwilliger

R. Keith Wages

Dave Wall

 

Steve Adams

David Arrington

Jennie Banks

Don Cargile

Linda Hamby

Dr. John Harvey

Zachery Holmes

Isiah Lineberry

Scott Masters

Mark Walker

 

 

OTHERS PRESENT

 

REPRESENTING

 

R. David Bean

W. Marty Billings

Wayne Buford

Sam R. Cunningham

Ej Dailey

Daisy Gantt

Shane Hill

Doug Hooten

David Loftin

Russ McGee

Earl H. McGrotha

Lawanna Mercer-Cobb

Mickey Moore

Renee Morgan

B. Jack Mundy

Dr. J. Pat O’Neal

Terrell Partain

Joe Robinson

Shirley Starling

Chris W. Threlkeld

Robert D. Vick, Sr.

Billy Watson

 

Georgia Office of EMS

Northeast Georgia Region 10 EMS

Department of Technical and Adult Education

West Central Georgia Region 7 EMS

Georgia Office of EMS

Georgia Office of EMS

Putnam County EMS

Rural Metro Ambulance Service

Northwest Georgia Region 1 EMS

West Georgia Region 4 EMS

North Georgia Region 2 EMS

East Central Georgia Region 6 EMS

Department of Technical and Adult Education

Georgia Office of EMS

North Georgia Region 2 EMS

Georgia Office of EMS

Hart County EMS

Mid Georgia Ambulance Service

Southeast Georgia Region 9 EMS

Central Georgia Region 5 EMS

Southwest Georgia Region 8 EMS

West Georgia Region 4 EMS

 

QUORUM

The Bylaws require that 50% (13) of the voting members be present to constitute a quorum.  Mr. Payne noted that fifteen (15) voting members (60%) were present at the call to order.

 

WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS

Mr. Payne asked Mr. Schneider to open the meeting with an invocation, then he welcomed those present and asked each to introduce themselves.

 

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 7,2002 MEETING

Copies of the minutes of the May meeting were distributed to EMSAC members prior to this date.  Additional copies were available for those who did not bring theirs.

 

MOTION 0802-01:        The meetings of the May 7, 2002, meeting be approved as presented.

ACTION:                       The motion was CONFIRMED as presented.

 

EMSAC MEMBERSHIP AND APPOINTMENTS

Mr. Payne noted that EMSAC members’ appointments are for the period 07/01/2002 to 06/30/2004.  He noted that the packet of information distributed to members contained a copy of the Bylaws. 

 

BYLAWS AND RULES GOVERNING EMSAC

Mr. Payne reviewed some of the requirements of the Bylaws, particularly those related to attendance.  Mr. Hinson asked the status of the Bylaws revision that was completed several years ago.  Mr. Bean stated that the Board of Human Resources did not approve the revision.  He suggested that EMSAC review the proposal again prior to resubmitting it to the Board.

MOTION 0802-02:        EMSAC review the Bylaws proposal that was approved by EMSAC and at the next meeting decide whether to send it to the Department with a request for approval.

MOTION BY:                 Mr. Hinson

SECOND BY:                 Mr. Wall

DISCUSSION:                Mr. Bean noted that the Bylaws proposal when developed included a pre-rules change set of Bylaws and a post-rules change set of Bylaws.

ACTION:                       The motion PASSED unanimously as presented.

 

EMSAC ELECTION PROCEDURES

Mr. Payne discussed the elections procedures as defined by the Bylaws.

MOTION 0802-03:        The Chair appoint a Nominating Committee to present a slate of officers thirty (30) days prior to the next meeting.

MOTION BY:                 Mr. Terwilliger

SECOND BY:                 Mr. Atkins

DISCUSSION:                Mr. Hinson noted that the current Bylaws are in conflict with current state laws regarding open meetings.  The motion was amended to require the slate of officers to be submitted electronically to members thirty (30) days prior to the next meeting.

ACTION:                       The motion PASSED unanimously as presented.

 

Mr. Payne appointed Mr. Wages, Mr. Terwilliger, Ms. Nieman, Mr. Atkins, and Mr. Mitchell to the Nominating Committee.  It will be chaired by Mr. Wages.  Mr. Bean asked that the committee report by October 1, 2002.

 

REPORTS

 

EMS MEDICAL DIRECTORS ADVISORY COUNCIL:  Dr. O’Neal provided the report.

      He stated that EMSMDAC would meet later this date.  The primary action expected to take place is a recommendation on how disciplinary actions are handled.  Also to be discussed is the use of Amiodarone and the maintenance of previously administered paralytic drugs on patients who are intubated at the hospital.  Mr. Hinson expressed appreciation to Dr. O’Neal for accepting the position of State EMS Medical Director.  He also cautioned the medical directors to be careful in setting standards for critical care transport because doing so can have an adverse effect on reimbursement.  Dr. O’Neal said the reimbursement issue is very important, but the job of EMSMDAC is concern with the clinical outcome of patients and not reimbursement issues.  Mr. Krakeel said the state does need to define “critical care interfacility transport” so that EMS providers will not have to guess if they qualify for additional reimbursement.  He suggested that EMSAC appoint a task force to address the issue.  Mr. Payne said EMTALA also addresses who can transport patients from hospitals and the level of care required.  A general discussion ensued regarding interpretation of the CMS rule with no conclusions reached.

 

TRAUMA – Dr. O’Neal stated that the state is moving forward with the development of a statewide trauma system.  The needs assessment was completed in May.  Recommendations are forthcoming and will be delivered to the soon-to-be-appointed State Trauma Committee.  The design process will take place over a twelve-month period of time, at the conclusion of which, two nationally known consultants will be brought in the review the recommendations.  Attorney Wayne Reece has been instrumental with the political process regarding trauma over the past few months and is interesting in expanding those activities.  Dr. O’Neal also reported that $754,000.00 was allocated by the General Assembly for trauma.  That will be distributed among the fifteen (15) currently designated trauma centers.  Ms. Gantt reported that as of July 1, 2002, all trauma centers in Georgia began using the TRACS trauma registry.  Training has been provided on the system and a coding class will be offered in December.  By providing the training for the trauma nurse coordinators, the state will be able to compare data from the different centers.  Mr. Bean provided a brief history of the collection of trauma data in Georgia and how the system evolved from the use of two systems (Cales’ TRAUMA! Registry and ACS’ TRACS Registry) to just TRACS.  Ms. Morgan reported that monies allocated to trauma centers will be disbursed on a quarterly basis after receiving their data.  She also provided information on the status of those centers requesting an upgrade in their level of designation.  There are additional facilities across the state exploring designation.  The registry must be in place with data being collected prior to the site visit.  Dr. O’Neal said the data drives the trauma improvement process.  Georgia has a horrible record (65 fatalities / 100,000) in terms of trauma statistics.  It is much worse than the national level (56 fatalities / 100,000).  Data is also important in reimbursement issues.  An investment in a trauma system is expensive, but can result in as much as a 500% return.  Funding is not likely unless the state can show that improvements are being made in the system.  Ms. Nieman indicated that the education of county commissioners regarding trauma systems is vital.  She emphasized the importance of data in helping county commissions making budget allocations at the local level and she encouraged the use of as much information as possible. 

 

INFORMATION SYSTEMS AND DATA MANAGEMENT – Mr. Bean provided the report.

JOHN DORLING:  Mr. Dorling has accepted a position as Bioterrorism Preparedness Coordinator in District 4 and will be leaving the State Office at the end of August. 

PREHOSPITAL CARE REPORT DATA:  Mr. Krakeel asked if the State Office of EMS has ever produced an annual report utilizing the Prehospital Care Report data submitted to the office.  Mr. Bean said that one has not yet been produced under his administration.  He noted that compliance is spotty and variances occur among the Regional EMS Offices regarding the completeness of the data (i.e. all documents submitted, trouble with hardware, etc.).  Mr. Bean said he is not happy with the current situation and is exploring the options.  Mr. Krakeel said it would appear to be much simpler and much less resource intensive if the State Office would develop a very simple minimum data set for the providers to report.  Mr. Hinson said the State Office should develop a product, showing EMS providers exactly what would be provided to them with the data, then identifying the data that is needed.  Mr. Bean said an annual report is a quantification of what is going on.  A product that meets every providers needs is a fictitious item. 

 

MOTION 0802-04:  EMSAC create a task force of individuals to define the product of data reporting to the state.

MOTION BY:                 Mr. Krakeel

SECOND BY:                 Mr. Hinson

DISCUSSION:                Mr. Bean asked that the Data Task Force not be ignored in the process.  Also, on the national level, what is likely to occur is a defining of the data elements, rather than the creation of a uniform data set.

ACTION:                       The motion PASSED with no opposition.

 

Mr. Payne appointed Mr. Krakeel as the chair of the task force.  Other members include Mr. Arrington, Mr. Cargile, Mr. Doss, Mr. Roberts and Mr. Hinson.  The next meeting of the Data Task Force is September 10 in Meriwether County.

 

Mr. McCullough asked if an annual report is produced, would it address only data from Patient Care Reports or would it include other items such as the number of medics recertified, the number of ambulances registered, etc.  Mr. Bean said the motion only addressed Patient Care Reports, but he is reviewing the Iowa EMS Report and considers it to be a model.

 

DEPUTY DIRECTOR:     Mr. Bean announced that Ej Dailey has been appointed to the position of Deputy Director of the State Office of EMS.

 

GRANTS – Ms. Dailey discussed current grant activities underway in the Office of EMS.

      AED GRANT:  The grant will provide approximately 100 AEDs.

EMS-C GRANT:  The State Office of EMS will likely apply for a three year extension of funding for the EMS for Children program.

RURAL HEALTH:  A county will be identified that provides service to an adjoining county.  If accepted, funding will be available for specific needs.

CDC GRANT:  This grant is for $23.2 million and deals with Public Health system preparedness for bioterrorism.

HRSA GRANT:  This $3.4 million grant rests with the Office of EMS and requires the agency to undertake an assessment of hospitals, EMS providers, community health centers, and state facilities preparedness.  Assessment tools are being developed now.

 

STATE OFFICE EMS POSITIONS:  New positions are being advertised or will be shortly.  Among the eight positions are Bioterrorism Preparedness Coordinator, Bioterrorism Training, and Program Associate.

 

TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION

RECERTIFICATION:  Mr. Bean said the majority of the recertification data forms have been scanned.  An internet portal access effort has begun with the state so that in the future, medics should be able to recertify on-line.

      ACCREDITATION:  A process of accreditation of educational institutions is being studied.

 

EMS FOR CHILDREN – Ms. Dailey provided the report.

PROGRAM GUIDE:  Ms. Dailey distributed the Program Guide for 2002 – 2003.  She stated that EMS-C used pediatric patient data extensively over the past few years.

 

LICENSING ISSUES – Mr. Bean provided a brief report.

 

EMT-BASIC STUDY COMMITTEE REPORT

Information regarding the EMT-B Study Committee was included in the packets to the EMSAC members.  Mr. Bean reviewed the recommendations.  Mr. Bean said the report will be submitted publicly and the State Office will welcome comments with rationale from individuals and organizations across the state.  EMSAC’s opinion will be especially valuable.

 

MOTION 0802-05:        EMSAC adopt the report of the majority opinion of the EMT-Basic Study Committee and recommend its implementation to the State Office of EMS.

MOTION BY:                 Mr. Hinson

SECOND BY:                 Mr. Krakeel

DISCUSSION:                Mr. Oliver asked why the committee reversed its opinion in April on utilizing two EMT-Bs on the ambulance.  Mr. Genest said it was determined that to do otherwise would essentially require ALS staffing on all vehicles.  Mr. Wages provided additional explanation, addressing in particular, the use of hybrid curriculum.

ACTION:                       The motion PASSED with no objections and one abstention.

 

Mr. Bean said he anticipates a decision by the end of the year.  If the recommendation received is accepted, the Rules will have to be changed.  Mr. Krakeel urged that the decision be made as soon as possible, stating that he did not see the need to wait for any changes with the Rules.  Mr. Hinson said it should not have to jump through every hoop possible, but there should be ample opportunity for comment.  Mr. Edwards said a large percentage of providers in southwest Georgia do not support the recommendation.  Mr. Wall commented for the record that at least two groups of fire service providers (Atlanta Metro Fire Chiefs Association and the Georgia Fire Chiefs Association) have gone on record in support of the recommendation.  Mr. McCullough indicated that the West Georgia Region 4 EMS Council has also gone on record in support of the recommendation. Mr. Oliver expressed concerns regarding training.  EMT-Bs will be allowed perform some airway maneuvers that EMT-Is currently cannot. Mr. Bean clarified that while the Rules may not need revision in order to enact the recommended policy change, a review of the rules is important to insure no barriers to implementation exist. Further, Mr. Bean made it clear the decision on this issue is not bound by the same schedule and procedure as a regulatory change.


RULES AND REGULATIONS REVISION REPORT

The Rules and Regulations Committee was chaired by Mr. Cunningham.  The report of the committee was submitted to the State Office on July 1, 2002.  The draft was reviewed and modified by the Regional EMS Coordinators at their meeting in mid-July.  A revised draft will be distributed to EMSAC, the Office of Legal Services, and others in the near future by the State Office of EMS.

EMSAC MEMBERSHIP EXPANSION

Mr. Atkins requested that the Commissioner be approached and requested to appoint liaison representatives from the Georgia Association of EMTs, the EMS Directors Association of Georgia, and the Georgia Hospital Association.  Mr. Wall also mentioned the Georgia Hospital Association.

 

MOTION 0802-06:        EMSAC recommends that the State EMS Director request a waiver from the DHR Commissioner to allow the appointment of four additional voting members, representing the Georgia Association of EMTs (GAEMT), the EMS Directors Association of Georgia (EMSDAG), the Georgia Hospital Association (GHA), and the Georgia Municipal Association (GMA).

MOTION BY:                 Mr. Atkins

SECOND BY:                 Mr. Oliver

DISCUSSION:                Mr. Buford asked if consideration could be given to the appointment of a member of the Educator’s Division of the Georgia Association of EMTs.  Mr. Krakeel noted that the objective of the motion can be met without the motion.  Mr. Bean assured the group that he would submit the names of the presidents of the two associations, along with the names of representatives from the Georgia Hospital Association, the Georgia Municipal Association, and the Educators Division of GAEMT to the Commissioner.

ACTION:                       The motion was WITHDRAWN.

 

 

NEXT MEETING

The next meeting of EMSAC will be held in conjunction with the TIME Conference at Albany during the week of November 11.  The exact date and time will be announced later.

 

 

ADJOURNMENT

There being no further business, Mr. Payne declared the meeting adjourned at 1215 hours.

 

 

 

 

 


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R. DAVID BEAN

State EMS Director

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cc:        EMSAC Members

Mike Smith, Director - DHR DPH Environmental Health and Injury Prevention Branch

Regional EMS Coordinators

Regional EMS Medical Directors

Lead District Health Directors

State Office of State EMS Staff

R. David Bean, EMT-P

Charles F. Benson, Jr.

Ej Dailey, EMT-P

John Dorling, EMT-P

Paul Ownby, EMT-P

Daisy Gantt, RN

Renee Morgan, EMT-P

Other Interested Parties

Minutes Scribed by Sam R. Cunningham